tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post7554809192614748627..comments2024-03-29T08:13:50.023+01:00Comments on Sparks in Spain: More ICP Switch concernsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11809608456647598491noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-49896887421742328742020-04-04T09:15:58.737+02:002020-04-04T09:15:58.737+02:00This is because you can work less each day. If you...This is because you can work less each day. If you want to be sure of getting the most efficient appliances, you can have your appliances installed yourself. You are curious to know more about save on electricity bills, <a href="https://uberant.com/article/740919-power-efficiency-guide-an-ultimate-guide-to-saving-the-energy-for-future-use/" rel="nofollow"><b>find out here</b></a>. WilliamsDamionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06486856922034226965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-74921415230184862862013-02-12T09:33:02.113+01:002013-02-12T09:33:02.113+01:00The float switch is basically used to detect the l...The float switch is basically used to detect the level of liquid within a container. When a designated minimum or maximum level is reached, the float switch activates and triggers the desired response, such as turning a pump on or off or triggering an alarm. <strong><a href="http://www.tavengineering.com/" rel="nofollow">Click Here</a></strong> for more details.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12865259877809782699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-55458931280711115812012-05-14T21:28:45.015+02:002012-05-14T21:28:45.015+02:00Castellion is a unique situation. It is the first ...Castellion is a unique situation. It is the first city in Spain to get a "Smart Grid" as part of the STAR project (you may want to check that out on Iberdrola's web site). I don´t know about the progress of the project in Castellion but every home is due to have a "Smart Meter" fitted, which is mandatory not optional. The Smart Meters have an ICP (power control switch) in accordance with customers contracted supply, and the power consumption is limited to that amount. In your parents case 1.5 kW. It is protocol for Iberdrola to request a boletin (certificate) in order to upgrade the electrical supply to the property if more power is required. Undoubtedly an installation wired to take 1.5 kW will require a considerable amount of work to bring it up to the current safety standards for a 5.75 kW (current normal installation) to the spec of the latest Spanish Electrical Regs so a boletin can be issued. So everything you say that has happened sounds perfectly correct.<br /><br />Unfortunately if the power line feeding the property needs upgrading also the cost is borne by the customer. Sounds unfair but that's how it is in Spain.<br /><br />I expect there will be many similar cases in Castellion and eventually the rest of Spain as more Smart Grids go on line.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11809608456647598491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-84857610796608936702012-05-14T19:38:09.022+02:002012-05-14T19:38:09.022+02:00Hi, I'm an American visiting my partner's ...Hi, I'm an American visiting my partner's parents in Castellon. They are iberdrola customers and have had a nightmare in the last year. They live in a 40+ year old house and are on a contract with a 1,5kW Pontencia (apparently inherited from the former owners). Early last winter (Dec or Jan) ince they were instructed by Iberdrola to upgrade their meter to a new digital meter (they have a Landis Gyr E450 installed now in their garage). A month later - for the first time ever - their power tripped off and kept tripping - despite just normal usage. Apparently with the new meter Iberdrola was able to monitor their instantaneous usage and finally got around to enforcing the limit on their usage. Since then, they have stopped using the dishwasher, and washing machine (both trip the power) and purchased a new fridge and smaller microwave to try and work under their limit. They can only take showers in the one bathroom in the house that gets its water heated from the gas heater. <br /><br />They hired an electrician and he said that they need to upgrade their plan, but to do so he said Iberdrola required some internal upgrading and cleaning up of the old wiring in the house... as well as sealing the Power Meter. He performed all those tasks and went to the government to get this work certified (maybe that's the Boland?) . They then went to Iberdrola with this formal paperwork and asked to be upgraded above the 1500 watt limit - which seems to be impractical, even though they don't have electric heating or cooling. Iberdrola charged them 160 Euros for what they thought was the fee to be upgraded .... once the money had cleared the bank Iberdrola announced that they could not upgrade their power plan until:<br /><br />* They pay over 10,000 Euros to Iberdrola to bring the underground power (they get their power from overhead wire - as do the neighbors) half way round a city block to their front doorstep AND moved their new power meter (the one that Iberdrola asked them to install a year ago) out to the streetside.<br /><br />They are not inclined to pay 10,000 Euros for a task that they feel should be the power companies obligation (bringing underground power along the street in a fairly dense residential neighborhood) so now are turning off most lights before using the toaster etc.... forgoing simple amenities like a dishwasher. The electrician now says that if they want to "wait out" Iberdrola... they need to simply limit their power or buy a diesel generator. <br /><br />I started doing some research, but it seems that even with the best new energy efficient appliances its going to be very very hard to stay under their 1500 watt limit. <br /><br />Of course had they not put in the new meter (as requested by Iberdrola) then Iberdrola would not have been able to enforce the 1500 watt limit from the ancient contract that they inherited from the former owners of the house (some 40 years ago). <br /><br />Any advice would be appreciated.peterislerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07772284416206991864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-29941118251865792612012-04-23T18:53:37.614+02:002012-04-23T18:53:37.614+02:00If it's a Lemag limiter then it's the old ...If it's a Lemag limiter then it's the old automatic ICP(A) which Iberdrola don´t fit anymore. However it really all depends on what Iberdrola have on their computer records. My advice is get a new ICP(M) fitted ASAP, inform Iberdola, then you'll stop paying the penalty (which I presume you are). There is no sense in arguing with Iberdrola about the old ICP. If they've written instructing you top to fit one there is no way round it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11809608456647598491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-7758352398819582752012-04-23T18:38:02.629+02:002012-04-23T18:38:02.629+02:00Thanks for your prompt reply of Apr3,2012. I assu...Thanks for your prompt reply of Apr3,2012. I assume my limiter is Lemag, as shown in your article. It is housed in a cupboard at the end of the terrace of properties, with others, and I only know of one other owner who had 'the letter', and he replied and still pays the 3.3Kw rate. I only spend a few weeks a year in Spain and am having difficulty sorting this out.Grahamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-80540360089837298862012-04-03T19:04:04.065+02:002012-04-03T19:04:04.065+02:00What type of limiter? It maybe Iberdola's reco...What type of limiter? It maybe Iberdola's records show that you don't have one, in which case you will need to to have an ICP(M) - manual type - get them to inspect and seal it by ringing 902 10 22 10 quoting your contract number.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11809608456647598491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-77668727664355414492012-04-03T17:36:03.346+02:002012-04-03T17:36:03.346+02:00I have an automatic limiter, but have been unable ...I have an automatic limiter, but have been unable to convince Iberdrola. I have telephoned and written. Can you offer any suggestions? Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-7553486952122705022011-09-28T00:21:32.514+02:002011-09-28T00:21:32.514+02:00Surges don't only come from air con units and ...Surges don't only come from air con units and the ICP is not a fuse ??? If a surge current is overloading the ICP, and you require more power, then you are going to have to upgrade your electricity supply.<br /><br />Spanish electricity law stipulates that all consumers of electricity must have an ICP fitted in accordance with their contracted supply. So if you ain't got an ICP, and they instruct you fit one, it's up to you to get one fitted or pay the penalty with a higher tariff.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11809608456647598491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-30696499500682838902011-09-27T23:01:59.211+02:002011-09-27T23:01:59.211+02:00I'm reading this and am puzzled. Most air con ...I'm reading this and am puzzled. Most air con units except the more recent inverter types will have a surge current which could easily exceed the potencia supplied. If the over power device was a fuse, then depending on its rating it could take both the average running current and the motor surge.<br /><br />What class is the ICP being fitted? It would seem a big rip off if the contracted supply value will respond to a cycle of motor surge and disconnect. <br /><br />I've not seen anything written about peak surge currents yet, so I wonder how people are coping with their air con systems now they have these ICPs<br /><br />Nice description by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-82020426495802911122011-07-24T11:15:29.300+02:002011-07-24T11:15:29.300+02:00An ICP is a "trip switch" that controls/...An ICP is a "trip switch" that controls/limits your power supply to the amount you are contracted forAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11809608456647598491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4372245169202242131.post-72220846803944953992011-07-24T10:41:47.484+02:002011-07-24T10:41:47.484+02:00I take it that an ICP is what we call in the UK a ...I take it that an ICP is what we call in the UK a trip switch?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00378788871204116964noreply@blogger.com